I would disagree. But whatever the first church is, it is undoubtedly much different today than they way the earliest Christians worshipped. My point wasn't to say that such and such church is wrong, or right, but that God has kept His own safe.

--
Ilya i ná malta úmirilya,
lá ilyë yantë ranya nar vanwë.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost.

"The church in the West becomes the Roman Catholic while the one in the east becomes the Greek Orthodox."

Hi there...Stumbled upon this comment when searching for "orthodox church deviantart", and just had to mention (to Revenwyn) that the Orthodox Church was the original Christian Church; the Roman Catholics split away from it in 1054 AD. Please see:

[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]

Nice to meet you and take care,
Xenia

I use Illustrator.
Photoshop for color

Thx for asking

Hey! Thank you so much for showing interest in our club and stopping by! We hope so very much that you come back! If you don't, then we'll just have to visit you more often!

What gave you the bright idea to go to a SATANIST club on dA and try (pitifully, might I add) to force your opinion of a truth on us? Do you not think we know your religion exists? Let me tell you... We are well aware of it, and it is (in most cases) the EXACT reason we chose Satanism as our religion. Stick to forcing the Africans pray for their meals, and leave us alone.

--
Don't judge us

thanks alot for the Watch.

--
I am the laziest person alive...

For isometric pixel art:

[link]
[link]
______________________


For the realization of the shadows:

[link]
______________________


Within the rooms:

[link]
______________________


O.K.??
Good job

Yes.

Tutorial in English language?

Thanks for the watched.
Welcome to deviantART.

Thx alot for Supporting Mictopia [link]

& Welcome to DA

well, true. its just he was quite forceful of his views and i take a lot of offense to that. im not a satanist but i understand the views. i have no religion and am living my life freely and understanding of all peoples and religion.

and i agree. lets just drop this and live our lives.

--
founder of [link]

join up if you love iced earth

98% of the teenage population are not emo. If you're one of the 2% that is, shut the fuck up

i AM the duct tape ninja. [link]

I'm not talking down at you.
I just read what he posted. He posted nothing wrong. His opinion is that Jesus is the best, and that he is praying for your repentance. And then you and some other person decide to say stuff that was far less nice than what he said.
I myself wouldn't bother posting in the club. But he did, and though I don't necessarily approve of the action, I think that you all overreacted a bit.

Anyway, let's drop this subject and let him be now.

--
Ilya i ná malta úmirilya,
lá ilyë yantë ranya nar vanwë.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost.

well...seeing as how that last one i did was before i read what you posted....go to the da satanists club and read what hectix put on our main page

and dont you goddamn DARE talk down to me. im not below you and im not above you. as far as im concerned we are equals. age and beliefs aside.

--
founder of [link]

join up if you love iced earth

98% of the teenage population are not emo. If you're one of the 2% that is, shut the fuck up

i AM the duct tape ninja. [link]

im sorry, i didnt mean to post that as a reply to you V.V;;; i just clicked the wrong button ><. my apologies for any bad blood

--
founder of [link]

join up if you love iced earth

98% of the teenage population are not emo. If you're one of the 2% that is, shut the fuck up

i AM the duct tape ninja. [link]

I wasn't posting it for your benefit, I was posting it for his. I never said anything to offend you, or any of the others. You're the one who has been offending us. As far as contradictions go, there are no contradictions, just the Old Testament is different because God wanted to show man that they couldn't live righteously apart from Him.
Anyway, I'm not trying to offend anyone, so if you don't try to offend us (and even if you do try to offend us, we will not stoop that low as to offend you back.)

--
Ilya i ná malta úmirilya,
lá ilyë yantë ranya nar vanwë.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost.

ok...1. you typed all that realllly quickly. 2. theres no fucking way to get me to read all that at this time of morning. and 3. ive read the bible and there were too many errors and contradictions in it.

i have a piece of advice for you and i dont care if you take it or not.
if you read the satanic bible on a purely non-bias stand point as i did when i read the bible and any religious text, anywho, you will find its a "religion" very close to judiasm. and the whole sacrificing evil images forcefed to people via movies and stuff of that sort are all bullshit. most satanists lead normal everyday lives.

so i hope for yourself you will leave people who dont share your beliefs/views alone and not treat them like garbage.

and one last thing, dont force your views on others just because you believe them to be right. thats quite possibly the stupidist thing any human being can do

--
founder of [link]

join up if you love iced earth

98% of the teenage population are not emo. If you're one of the 2% that is, shut the fuck up

i AM the duct tape ninja. [link]

ok...1. you typed all that realllly quickly. 2. theres no fucking way to get me to read all that at this time of morning. and 3. ive read the bible and there were too many errors and contradictions in it.

i have a piece of advice for you and i dont care if you take it or not.
if you read the satanic bible on a purely non-bias stand point as i did when i read the bible and any religious text, anywho, you will find its a "religion" very close to judiasm. and the whole sacrificing evil images forcefed to people via movies and stuff of that sort are all bullshit. most satanists lead normal everyday lives.

so i hope for yourself you will leave people who dont share your beliefs/views alone and not treat them like garbage.

and one last thing, dont force your views on others just because you believe them to be right. thats quite possibly the stupidist thing any human being can do

--
founder of [link]

join up if you love iced earth

98% of the teenage population are not emo. If you're one of the 2% that is, shut the fuck up

i AM the duct tape ninja. [link]

I went to Bible school last year in Quebec, just for personal growth. I've included one of my assignments for you.


Faithfulness Through the Ages
Journal
Jennyfer
1/9/04 – 1/16/04

The Church that Christ established has undergone major changes during its first two millennia. Some were good, some were to the detriment to the church, and others were thought at first to be good for the church, but ended up harming it instead. However, through the times that we as sinful man have acted in the matters of the church without seeking the will of God, He has always set a remnant apart to retain His truths.
In the first century of the church, belief was simple. The Christians believed in the simple faith of the Gospel- a gospel of grace, not works of man’s doing. They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. (Acts 2:42) They spent a great deal of time with each other.
Then came persecution. When the believers in Jerusalem were persecuted, they scattered in several different directions, preaching the Word of God. As a result, churches were started in Antioch, Rome, Philippi, Thessalonica, Borea, Corinth, Ephesus, Colosse, and Galatia, and probably other places as well. In the face of persecution, God had caused the gospel to spread. Later on, the persecution was widely spread throughout the Roman Empire. The believers were prepared to suffer for Christ.
The soil that the church was planted on was fertile for the spread of a new religion. Because of the political unity in the Roman Empire, the threat of war did not stamp out Christianity. Also, there was a common language throughout the empire that many understood. Many other philosophies were spreading and causing despair, and Christianity brought hope.
But transitions would soon happen in the church. Church buildings began to be built, while the early churches worshipped in the home. The study of theology began, and apologists spread to explain the rites of the church in common language so it would no longer be a mystery. A church hierarchy is set up to guard against heresy, for all eyewitnesses of Christ have died. At the top is one man, the pope. With the split of the Roman Empire, there is also a split in the church. The church in the West becomes the Roman Catholic while the one in the east becomes the Greek Orthodox. Meanwhile, persecutions were still happening.
Then along came Constantine. He saw a vision of a flaming cross in the air and heard the words ‘by this sign conquer.’ He “converts” to Christianity, and in 381 makes Christianity the state religion. This is both good and bad news: Persecutions stop, but true spirituality is now traded for positions of political authority. In order to combat heresy even more, Constantine called for a council of bishops in Nicene to discuss the current heresies. Arianism, the belief that Christ was created by God but was not God, is condemned. They write the Nicene Creed, which is still recited today. They also decided what writings to include in the New Testament canon.
From 300-800 A.D. there was a spiritual dark ages of sorts. By this time, Christianity was well-established in Britain, and was preserved for centuries to come. The rise of monasticism came about as a reaction to social compromise in the church. Although Christianity was the state religion, most people still acted like pagans. In light of this hypocrisy, there became an increased interest in separating from society and conscientiously following Christ. Monasticism was used to practice prayer and preserve literature. Augustine was born in 354 in North Africa to a Christian mother and a pagan father. He was immoral before his conversion in 387. He wrote quite a bit about his life, and Christianity, and his writings are among the most quoted today. Communion was no longer a memorial of Christ’s death, it became a sacrifice. Icons were becoming widely used in the churches, which grew wealthier. By 814 a movement called iconoclasm started, which was the destruction of icons in the churches. The doctrine of priesthood for all believers was traded for hierarchy in the churches. Priests were thought to be almost magical, and so were the way to get to God.
However, in the face of all this, God was preserving a remnant who kept a purer form of the church. God took Patrick, born in 387, and had him captured by Irish raiders. Patrick was alone tending sheep much of the time, and grew to know God. When he escaped, he left for France to study to become a bishop. He returns to Ireland in 432, and tells them about God. The Irish convert to Christianity, and soon are copying the bible, as well as other western literature. At this same time, barbarians were destroying the great libraries of Europe. God had saved his Word from destruction.
In about 600 A.D. a new religion, which is now known as Islam, arose in the Middle East. Islam quickly spreads, taking over the ‘territory’ of the church. Islam is undefeated in battle for nearly 100 years (635-732) and takes over Spain. They attacked Constantinople in an attempt to wipe out Christianity. For many years the church does not respond, but finally, in 1095, Pope Urban calls for a crusade. This is perhaps the darkest time in the history of the church. Christians fought against the Muslims, not really for spiritual reasons, but for political reasons, and in the four main crusades there was nothing but a great loss of life. The crusades would leave a dark spot in Christianity for years.
From 1000-1300 there were many changes in the church. First and foremost would be the sales of indulgences, which allowed people to purchase freedom from Purgatory. It was nothing but a money-making scam by the papal leadership. Then, the church started clamping down on ‘heretics’ which could be anything from rejecting basic scriptural doctrine to others, which rejected church traditions.
In 1330, the pre-reformation ideas begin to emerge. John Wyclif was a theologian at Oxford university, but was condemned as a heretic because of his ‘revolutionary ideas’ that undermined the authority of priestly service, that the Bible, not the church was the sole authority of the believer, and that Christ was the head of the Body, not the catholic church. He worked on the first English translation of the bible from Latin and Greek. Although he remained part of the Catholic Church his entire life, he was a reformer at heart. He died, and was excommunicated 31 years later. There were others who followed his ideas, but the reformation did not catch on at this point. Things were not quite ready. Then, Johann Gutenberg created the printing press. Things were ready now for the reformation.
In 1517, a monk named Martin Luther becomes outraged when a man named John Tetzel preached and sold indulgences. He wrote The 95 Thesis in protest. He was brought to trial by the church about this, but he would not recant. He translated the Latin Bible into German. He never intended to separate from the Catholic Church, just reform it, and he was disturbed about the radicalism that followed.
There were other reformers that followed. Some of the notable reformers were Ulrich Zwingli in Switzerland, John Calvin in France, and the Anabaptists, also in Germany. Also, in Germany two other groups arose, one following a man named Thomas Muntzer, had violent tendencies, while the others, lead by Menno Simons, were pacifist in nature. This group became known as Mennonites.
King Henry the VIII in England sought to separate from the Catholic Church because he wanted to divorce his wife because she could not bear him a son. He formed his own church, the Church of England, which was a compromise in style between the Catholic and Protestant styles.
During this time, there was also a counter-reformation. Catholic Missionaries went all over the world to evangelize the people. Also, in Spain, the Inquisition was now used to seek out and punish Protestants.
In the 1600s, the Puritans sought to purify the church from within, and appealed to King James for moderate changes to the church. He didn’t agree, but did agree to a new translation of the bible, which became known as the King James Version. Finally they chose to separate from the Church of England. Some fled to Holland, where they had peace for a time, then went to the New World, while others decided to stay in England and suffer the persecution. Out of this era comes the great work by John Bunyan, called Pilgrim’s Progress. Around this time as well, the Society of Friends “Quakers” was also established.
With the coming of the Age of Reason (1700’s) came skepticism within the church. In response to this skepticism came the Great Revivals. Some key players in these revivals were men such as John Wesley, Jonathan Edwards, and George Whitefield. In England, Robert Raikes started the Sunday school, which was for the poor children of the factories on Sunday, their one day off. It taught not only Bible stories, but also reading/writing and math basics. This was a huge risk, because educating the poor might cause a rebellion.
Starting in the 1800’s, there was a huge outburst of Protestant missionaries heading towards the un-evangelized lands. This was the result of easier transportation. Some hot spots were India, the South Pacific, and Africa.
Now we are finally to the twentieth century. This was the era of many interesting twists to the Christian faith- and the “absence” of religion altogether. In 1901, the Pentecostal movement began when a woman spoke in tongues at a prayer meeting. William Seymour emphasizes Spirit baptism by having the ability to speak in tongues. Pentecostalism emerges, and it was loosely organized at first to allow for the spirit’s leading.
Also, here we have the rise of communism. Started by the writings of Karl Marx, its anti-religious ideology spread quickly through Europe, Asia, and Latin America. Christian worship is forbidden, and many believers persecuted and killed.
In 1962, the Catholic Church was updated in an attempt to regain power. There were major changes in the Church- the role of laypeople was as significant as those as priests, there was less power for the pope, Scripture was now the final authority, the language of Mass was changed from Latin to the native language of the people, and those outside the “Catholic” church were declared to be Christian.
In conclusion, what all this was meant to address is the fact that God still reveals truth to those who seek it, and that God has always had runners for the torch of the gospel, even in Christianity’s darkest moments.

--
Ilya i ná malta úmirilya,
lá ilyë yantë ranya nar vanwë.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost.

Looks like someone needs to support you.........

--
Ilya i ná malta úmirilya,
lá ilyë yantë ranya nar vanwë.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost.

Wow. you bitch about MM, and Satanism? You must not be a very good person.

--
I was so young when I was born...

Jai guru dev OM

wow, did you make this account just to blam the DA satanists?

oh yah, leave our beliefs alone....we'll leave yours alone

--
founder of [link]

join up if you love iced earth

98% of the teenage population are not emo. If you're one of the 2% that is, shut the fuck up

i AM the duct tape ninja. [link]

w00t, welcome!

--
"She's strong..! And scary.... She's defenitely single." -Kabuto, about Tsunade
Luminae IV (#67539) @ Gaia Online